Some people have also received this by email, but it is intended for anybody wanting to compete in CC#2: First of all, let me thank all of you who voted. The total number of votes isn't particularly high, but I think it represents over 50% of the known CC#2 participants. Now, here are the results of the vote for category removal / combination: 7 votes -> 1) combine the 4K and 64K categories into an 8K category (which would allow for a 32K external music file) 3 votes -> 2) get rid of the 2K category and allow for tools in both 1K and 4K categories 0 votes -> 3) get rid of the 2K category AND turn the 4K into an 8K category (without external music file) 2 votes -> 4) get rid of the 64K category Which means we'll be combining the 4K and 64K categories into an 8K (+32K music) category (game and demo). While we're at it, all languages will be allowed for all categories, not just the 1K. Do note though that your program must be able to run without any non RISC OS Operating System software. So, programs which for instance need a Pascal or Fortran module/library to run will not be allowed. An exception of course is the module player for the 8K category. Exact details should be up on the CC#2 site within the next couple of days. I would also like to share some of my replies to some of your comments: Comment: the 8K (and previously 64K) categories are turning CodeCraft from a coding competition into a demo competition, especially with the music. Reply: When you look at a demo it can be divided into three pieces: - code - graphics / design - music Now, most code entered into the CodeCraft competitions is code that generates visual effects, i.e. graphics. Even on this point well coded entries may loose out on badly coded entries just because the badly coded one does have better graphics. Just look at SockZ (4K entry in CC#1) which was pretty good, but only got high points from coders who understood that it was a cool piece of code. (I'm not saying the visually pleasing ones were badly coded in this case though.) So, from a graphical point of view the CodeCraft competition already is very much a small demo competition. I really think that it's only because it's so much harder to create a music and samples from code (and having to write sound channel fillers etc) that we haven't seen more CC#1 entries with music. If this would have been easier I'm sure we would have seen more entries with music and thus it had really been (/formed into) a small demo competition. It's only really the 1K category anyway which still manages to be partly judged by code rather than looks. And in CC#2 the 2K category of course. 4K's already are small demo's anyway, so let's just have music as well :) Comment: most coders have a problem getting good music with their entries. Reply: I always seemed to think so as well, but that was when I really didn't look any further than the Acorn scene. Here's what I believe will work very well: - code your intro, it doesn't have to be exactly finished but you should have some effects going - surf the web and find the homepages of some democrews - look up the email addresses of a musician - write him a nice mail explaining what you're doing and that you're looking for a nice music to accompany the intro - preferably you should put up some screenshots somewhere and tell him he can have a look at them if he wants to get an idea of what you're doing, or offer to send some screenshots Alternatively go onto some demo scene channels on IRC and look for a musician there. Remember, they're equally willing to show off their talents as you are so if you give them the chance to make a music for a nice intro then I'm almost certain you'll get some responses. Last but not least, if you really can't find anybody you can always include an existing module from the internet... This will be much harder of course as it's not easy to find an existing tune that fits in with the intro and you'll have to time the effects to the music instead of vice versa. I do remember a couple of years back that it was indeed very hard to find musicians if you weren't an active pc-demo or amiga-demo scene member, but nowadays with the Internet and all it's so easy to get into contact with them :) I hope nobody's too dissapointed about the category-votes result and that everybody will continue enjoying the competition (and send in many entries :-) Cheers and Thank you for your support and understanding, Eli-Jean aka Pervect of Topix